Game News - Ossian Studios' next game is Pathfinder: The Dragon's Demand, a PF2E RPG coming to Kickstarter (2024)

Mortmal said:

I get Realm Beyond vibes here, except it's worse because they have never released any serious game before. Four guys are working on a complex ruleset, probably more complex than D&D 3.5, to script completely. If we're lucky and they are serious, we might get it in 10-15 years, unless it has a very small scope like Skald.Right now, contributing to those kinds of Kickstarters is more akin to charity

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The Dragon's Demand is a 64 page module for levels 1-7. It's absolutely do-able. Troika did ToEE in 19 months and fewer than 20 people and that was a 128 page module for levels 1-10.

Froila said:

Do Japanese practice DEI too?

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The grifter hasn't come up with the shadow-on-the-wall for overseas developer just yet, stay tune to your favorite propagandist/youtuber for your daily fix of affirmation.

Roguey said:

Troika did ToEE in 19 months and fewer than 20 people and that was a 128 page module for levels 1-10.

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And it was an oldschool module. Which means, lots of content per page. A modern "adventure" with 60 pages is like some railroad bullsh*t with a handful of encounters.

Roguey said:

Stunning in how off-putting it looks.

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I initially got excited because when I read "digital tabletop and minis" I thought it was gonna resemble real miniatures, not characters clearly 3D modelled and textured in the average style for a game these days. Granted it can only be seen in the tiny promo pic so far, maybe not representative of the end result.

I would like a game that had that "handcrafted" feel to it (Credit to Pierre-Antoine on sketchfab, took his scanned 3d minis as an example)

PunchYouInTheFace said:

Froila said:

Do Japanese practice DEI too?

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The grifter hasn't come up with the shadow-on-the-wall for overseas developer just yet, stay tune to your favorite propagandist/youtuber for your daily fix of affirmation.

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The dude rated my comment with "yes". Probably he really knows something. Or not.

Actually, as someone from Moscow, if old enough, he probably played a lot of ridiculously poorly optimized eurojunk.

Which makes his statements about good old days even more amusing.

Cohesion said:

Sure, that's why "coders" nowadays don't know math/graph theory/basic algorithms, that's why we need 3080 RTX or better for 30+ fps.

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Not sure what you're getting at in this case. The only info we have so far is that one Kickstarter screencap, which suggests a highly stylised, "low-tech" approach to development, probably relying on a lot of out-of-the-box engine functionality. If that's the case and the project doesn't pose a lot of programming challenges, what's left is gameplay design and the past NWN and NWN2 expertise, if it's still there, is certainly relevant.

I’m excited about this one. I need to see how the grey circles beneath the models look in-game and how they mesh with the whole aesthetic of the game before I decide if I hate it or not. So far it doesn’t look like a dealbreaker.

Why are some guys sh*tting on Pathfinder 2E tho? Isn’t it supposed to be really close to D&D 3.5 which everybody here loves?

Axel_am said:

I’m excited about this one. I need to see how the grey circles beneath the models look in-game and how they mesh with the whole aesthetic of the game before I decide if I hate it or not. So far it doesn’t look like a dealbreaker.

Why are some guys sh*tting on Pathfinder 2E tho? Isn’t it supposed to be really close to D&D 3.5 which everybody here loves?

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That was Pathfinder 1. 2E was their failed attempt to take on 5e.

R@tmaster said:

Yeah, everybody loves those awesome Paladin\Sorcerer\Dragon Disciple builds.

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Neverwinter Nights 1/2 did satisfy my build autism for quite awhile, I can't lie. Using warriors with high intelligence, dex, and wisdom for sky-high Armor classes, using the druids elemental form to achieve the same result, sup-optimal but interesting parrying builds, scythe weapon masters with lots of sneak attack dice who can put out insane damage numbers on those not immune...

I hate the overly bright, semi-cartoony artsyle you see in so many indie games.

Irxy said:

- Colorful, stylized, mobile trash tier graphics. Best suited for simple, cheap games for children.

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This is just the Pathfinder art style. You have to use it if you're making a Pathfinder game.

Irxy said:

- Out of 4 characters shown (our party?) 2 are black females & 2 are comedy relief shorties.

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Orcs aren't black. I assume you'll be making your own party so you can have 0 black characters. They have to demonstrate them to show compliance.

thacolives said:

Think Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous did a good job threading that line graphically at least compared to what Ossian always seems to come up with.

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"Always?" The only graphics Ossian have "come up with" so far are in The Shadow Sun, a mobile title, their other work was expansions for NWN and NWN2. You sure you ain't thinking of some other studio?

Gargaune said:

thacolives said:

Think Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous did a good job threading that line graphically at least compared to what Ossian always seems to come up with.

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"Always?" The only graphics Ossian have "come up with" so far are in The Shadow Sun, a mobile title, their other work was expansions for NWN and NWN2. You sure you ain't thinking of some other studio?

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Maybe he mistook Ossian with Obsidian xD

Roguey said:

They have to demonstrate them to show compliance.

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Compliance with what?

Cohesion said:

Compliance with what?

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Current liberal values.

Roguey said:

Cohesion said:

Compliance with what?

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Current liberal values.

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And why do they have to comply? Who is forcing them to bend the knee?

Cohesion said:

And why do they have to comply? Who is forcing them?

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To get positive coverage. Other liberals.

Roguey said:

Cohesion said:

And why do they have to comply? Who is forcing them?

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To get positive coverage. Other liberals.

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So it's a game by libs for libs.

Cohesion said:

So it's a game by libs for libs.

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That would be most games/RPGs now, yes.